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Old 02-06-2008, 06:25 PM
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#3acc.
While you wait for a correct answer!

with basic motion you can zero out #3 acc. Why? It shortens the distance the clubhead travels in order to remain in rhythm with the left arm (grip is more in the palm) the roll is quicker. Wanna hit a hook? Zero out #3 Acc. with a fuller motion! This is another reason why basic motion is genius! A beginner is "helped" with the roll by zeroing out #3Acc. So perhaps look for how the club is placed in the left hand (or right hand if you are a warlock)

#3Acc roll is the fastest (perhaps most elusive) move in golf, and largely a function of the grip.


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Old 02-06-2008, 07:41 PM
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Lynn, do you see this a lot with students, in the attempt to keep the FLW they don't roll it through impact? I have been through that stage myself and I am coming out the other side now, but I have seen it in a lot of other golfers. Tell them to hit down on the ball with a flat left wrist and the first couple of shots are shanks or 45° open clubfaces. It seems the idea of a flat left wrist freezes people up and they don't allow it to roll over. How do you get passed that with your students?

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Old 02-06-2008, 09:31 PM
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Just protect the left kneecap (right knee cap if your are a warlock )
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Old 02-07-2008, 02:29 PM
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When you attempted to impose the Flat Condition in your Horizontal Motion -- remember, Homer also always said, "Willpower isn't enough" -- you unconsiously inhibited the correct Rotational Motion (which, almost certainly, was the true problem to begin with).
WOW! Mr. Blake, you are amazing! The depth and clarity of your posts never ceases to amaze me. It truly is a sign of great wisdom when you can get to the root issue, just from a simple post, even when the person posting has no idea what the root is. You are a DOCTOR of the GOLF swing in every sense.


Thank you for generously sharing your wisdom on this site. You know that there is much substance in written matter when you can go back and read it over and over again after letting it incubate and it continues to unfold like the petals of a blooming flower.

I hope to meet you soon, maybe at the reunion (I am not sure if I qualify)?
I actually had begun reading your posts on Chuck Evans' site and then the TGM site shortly after the Pine Needles school. I would have loved to have attended, but I was not ready. I believe that now I am almost ready for beginner status. If not at the reunion, I need to schedule an appointment with the doctor soon.
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Warning noted!

I figure as long as that right arm is straightening I ought to be OK, right?

New Goal Revision

I hereby do solemnly swear to hereto-henceforth-forthwith keep my right wrist bent and level while straightening my right elbow through the utilization of either centrifugal force or the use of muscular thrust etc. etc.
I like that one better.
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Extensor action and body rotation create the finish swivel and allow PP#1,2, and 3 to remainglued to the shaft.
The reason I posted what I did was that I did not want you to make the same mistake I made. The first time I saw Ted, he had me open the book to chapter 9 and read out loud:
"EMPHATICALLY, the hands are not educated until they control the pivot."
So, while the HANDS are the only part of the body that touches the club, the feet are the only part of the body that are connected to something that does not move. The swing has to get from the base to the hands through the pivot. That could be part of what Hogan meant when he said that the secret is in the dirt; the "dirt" is the foundation of the swing.
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Old 02-07-2008, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Toolish View Post

Lynn, do you see this a lot with students, in the attempt to keep the FLW they don't roll it through impact?

It seems the idea of a flat left wrist freezes people up and they don't allow it to roll over. How do you get past that with your students?
To produce powerful and accurate golf shots, the Arms must overtake the Body and the Club must overtake the Hands. Only in this manner can the Golfer achieve true Mechanical Advantage (and its Power). In other words, the Golfer's Flail (2-K) must operate freely.

Most students attempting to incorporate the Flat Left Wrist into their Stroke Pattern also override (via Steering) the mandatory Clubhead Overtaking (and hence, its proper Closing). Remember, the proper Release contains two components, Uncock and Roll, not just Uncock.

I remember one particular student -- a college player struggling to make the team -- who came to me in the summer of 2006. [Seems to me I wrote a post about this.] We began our session as I usually do, around the greens. We hit the little Shots, first Chips with Basic Motion (no Wristcock); then Chip-Pitches (a little more Arm Motion and with Wristcock added); and finally, longer pitches with a definite Pivot Motion and Wristcock (but still no Finish Swivel, which is introduced in Stage Three of the Basic Motion Curriculum / 12-5-3).

The guy's action was beautiful. His Grip, Stance and Posture were perfect. His Head was centered, his Power Package and Plane alignments were dead on, and he executed each Stroke flawlessly. Had you told me he was a playing professional, I would not have been surprised. In fact, as I watched him, I couldn't help but think, "I've got a full day with this young man. What are we going to do?"

Then we went to Practice Tee, and I asked him to hit a full Pitching Wedge.



Fore right!

Same thing with the 8-iron and 5-iron. By the time we got to the Fairway Wood and Driver, he could barely keep it on the range. I had never seen anything like it (and haven't since): a TOUR quality Basic and Acquired Motion, and at best, a 10-handicap Total Motion. I took his Driver from him, handed him a dowel, and looked him dead in the eye:

"Is what I just saw normal for you?"

"Yes," he said. "I hit it everything right . . . and short."

"Well, my young friend, get ready, because I am about to change your golfing life forever."



He had told me that he developed his Short Stroke Patterns by "reading all your posts" and "concentrating on the Flat Left Wrist." Which was wonderful. But what wasn't so wonderful was that he had absolutely no concept of the correct action past the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). And that inability to Finish was jamming up the whole works through Impact in his longer Strokes.

In less than ten minutes with the dowel, I taught him the proper Overtaking Action from Release through the Finish Swivel. I handed him back his 8-Iron with instructions to "Make that Motion . . . let the Motion make the Shot." The first swing took his breath away (mine, too! ): He nailed it dead straight and long.



Same with the 5-Iron and Hybrid.



Then the Driver . . .

P-O-W!



We both stood there and just looked at each other. A minor miracle had just occured, and it deserved its own moment of silence.

On the Lesson Tee, as in life, some days are better than others.

This was a very good day.

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Originally Posted by Yoda View Post
To produce powerful and accurate golf shots, the Arms must overtake the Body and the Club must overtake the Hands. Only in this manner can the Golfer achieve true Mechanical Advantage (and its Power). In other words, the Golfer's Flail (2-K) must operate freely.

Most students attempting to incorporate the Flat Left Wrist into their Stroke Pattern also override (via Steering) the mandatory Clubhead Overtaking (and hence, its proper Closing). Remember, the proper Release contains two components, Uncock and Roll, not just Uncock.

I remember one particular student -- a college player struggling to make the team -- who came to me in the summer of 2006. [Seems to me I wrote a post about this.] We began our session as I usually do, around the greens. We hit the little Shots, first Chips with Basic Motion (no Wristcock); then Chip-Pitches (a little more Arm Motion and with Wristcock added); and finally, longer pitches with a definite Pivot Motion and Wristcock (but still no Finish Swivel, which is introduced in Stage Three of the Basic Motion Curriculum / 12-5-3).

The guy's action was beautiful. His Grip, Stance and Posture were perfect. His Head was centered, his Power Package and Plane alignments were dead on, and he executed each Stroke flawlessly. Had you told me he was a playing professional, I would not have been surprised. In fact, as I watched him, I couldn't help but think, "I've got a full day with this young man. What are we going to do?"

Then we went to Practice Tee, and I asked him to hit a full Pitching Wedge.



Fore right!

Same thing with the 8-iron and 5-iron. By the time we got to the Fairway Wood and Driver, he could barely keep it on the range. I had never seen anything like it (and haven't since): a TOUR quality Basic and Acquired Motion, and at best, a 10-handicap Total Motion. I took his Driver from him, handed him a dowel, and looked him dead in the eye:

"Is what I just saw normal for you?"

"Yes," he said. "I hit it everything right . . . and short."

"Well, my young friend, get ready, because I am about to change your golfing life forever."



He had told me that he developed his Short Stroke Patterns by "reading all your posts" and "concentrating on the Flat Left Wrist." Which was wonderful. But what wasn't so wonderful was that he had absolutely no concept of the correct action past the Follow-Through (Both Arms Straight position). And that inability to Finish was jamming up the whole works through Impact in his longer Strokes.

In less than ten minutes with the dowel, I taught him the proper Overtaking Action from Release through the Finish Swivel. I handed him back his 8-Iron with instructions to "Make that Motion . . . let the Motion make the Shot." The first swing took his breath away (mine, too! ): He nailed it dead straight and long.



Same with the 5-Iron and Hybrid.



Then the Driver . . .

P-O-W!



We both stood there and just looked at each other. A minor miracle had just occured, and it deserved its own moment of silence.

On the Lesson Tee, as in life, some days are better than others.

This was a very good day.

That's flat out awesome, as Okie said!
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The reason you can't sustain the lag is because you are so eager to make the club move fast (a reaction to the intent of "hitting it far"). So on a full shot you throw it away too early, which doesn't happen for your short chip. (bts)
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