I am finding just that. Hitting balls with Kev Carter this morning was further confirmation of that driving right shoulder. I am forever in your debt. Beer is on me when next you come to the tundra.
A good amount of #2 helps with making sure that the hands get a nice headstart, giving the sweetspot something to chase! As for the grip, 10-2-D seems to be knuckle neutral for me, but my left hand is not quite 45* turned. I cringe at the years I spent trying to weaken it, when based on preliminary results I should have strengthened the right hand. Again, thank you Edz. Tough to get your right forearm anywhere near on plane with a rolled right hand. It also does not help with the RFTA. I turned it a smidge and I could immediately feel my right elbow respond. So the right forearm responded to the alignments of the hands. I feel the RFA pickup a little better. Feels uncomfortable the longer the shaft, but I think it is going to help.
Jerry, I big aha for me was learning the the right shoulder is the liason between the power package and the pivot...train it!
Glad to help, any time Okie.
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OK Im back! Just realized I have a right to be here as though I may be Hitting, I have a Swingers Startdown. Drag Loading. CAnt touch me now! Which brings me to my question;
Assuming you dont Drive Load from Top, doesnt everyone Drag Load in Stratdown? A Hitters delayed Release of #1 Angle meaning Drag Loading? Whether or not he goes full Swingers Monty and loads the #3 pp in the knuckle a function of his Right Elbow position, whether he stops at Top or goes to End etc.
Personally, I have a Standard Shoulder Turn, On Plane going Down, Load the #3 at the knuckle, Drag Loading, string pulling, followed by a Shoulder Throw and then a Right Arm Throw, or sometimes a Left Wrist Throw but not often. Which leads me to my next question:
To actually have the Right Shoulder moving On Plane (TSP) I wondering if it requires a Shoulder Throw? The mere Turning of the HIps to Actuate the Right Shoulder seems to send the Right Shoulder out a little high for me anyways. What do you guys think? Any TSP, Shoulder Throwers out there? I know the Shoulder Throw is really later sequentially than the On Plane Shoulder Turn but this is what seems to make it work for me. Perhaps its the intention of using a Shoulder Throw that helps get the Right Shoulder down that low. Maybe its just me?
OK Im back! Just realized I have a right to be here as though I may be Hitting, I have a Swingers Startdown. Drag Loading. CAnt touch me now! Which brings me to my question;
Assuming you dont Drive Load from Top, doesnt everyone Drag Load in Stratdown? A Hitters delayed Release of #1 Angle meaning Drag Loading? Whether or not he goes full Swingers Monty and loads the #3 pp in the knuckle a function of his Right Elbow position, whether he stops at Top or goes to End etc.
Personally, I have a Standard Shoulder Turn, On Plane going Down, Load the #3 at the knuckle, Drag Loading, string pulling, followed by a Shoulder Throw and then a Right Arm Throw, or sometimes a Left Wrist Throw but not often. Which leads me to my next question:
To actually have the Right Shoulder moving On Plane (TSP) I wondering if it requires a Shoulder Throw? The mere Turning of the HIps to Actuate the Right Shoulder seems to send the Right Shoulder out a little high for me anyways. What do you guys think? Any TSP, Shoulder Throwers out there? I know the Shoulder Throw is really later sequentially than the On Plane Shoulder Turn but this is what seems to make it work for me. Perhaps its the intention of using a Shoulder Throw that helps get the Right Shoulder down that low. Maybe its just me?
To answer your first question, no. Hitter's are loading the side of the shaft, the right elbow, and swinger's are loading the top of the shaft, the left wrist.
At start down, that difference in loading should actually feel quite different. A swinger is very likely to feel a strong pull through the left arm, which is actually the pivot pulling PP#2.
Imagine a tailor fitting you for a jacket and measuring your arm. That is the line a swinger will feel pull on at start down. The left hand karate chop.
The hitter will feel the right arm, the triceps.
The core difference is rotation, the loading for swinger's being 90 degrees different than the loading for hitter's.
As far as the right shoulder, it depends on what plane you are using. I would say you could have a steeper plane shoulder throw, but I wouldn't recommend it. It would be less efficient.
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To answer your first question, no. Hitter's are loading the side of the shaft, the right elbow, and swinger's are loading the top of the shaft, the left wrist.
At start down, that difference in loading should actually feel quite different. A swinger is very likely to feel a strong pull through the left arm, which is actually the pivot pulling PP#2.
Imagine a tailor fitting you for a jacket and measuring your arm. That is the line a swinger will feel pull on at start down. The left hand karate chop.
The hitter will feel the right arm, the triceps.
The core difference is rotation, the loading for swinger's being 90 degrees different than the loading for hitter's.
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Thanks EdZ
Thats the classic Swinger vs 3 Barrel Hitter take for sure but what about the 4 Barrel guys? Same deal?
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