Have any of you found that the RIGHT FOREARM TAKEAWAY, and/or PICKUP, can activate the right arm in such a way as to encourage too active of a right arm for a Swinger? The Swinger wants his right arm Passive-- 3 Barrel, during the release sequence.
Right Forearm Takeaway . . . Not Right Hand Takeaway
Originally Posted by lagster
Have any of you found that the RIGHT FOREARM TAKEAWAY, and/or PICKUP, can activate the right arm in such a way as to encourage too active of a right arm for a Swinger? The Swinger wants his right arm Passive-- 3 Barrel, during the release sequence.
What do you think?
If you're thinking in terms of the right arm (and its Extensor Action), you shouldn't have a problem. However, if you think in terms of the right hand, you're dead.
If you're thinking in terms of the right arm (and its Extensor Action), you shouldn't have a problem. However, if you think in terms of the right hand, you're dead.
Why?
Because you will probably cock your right wrist.
And that's where the heartaches begin . . .
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Thanks Mr. Yoda.
The Book in 2-M says the Deltoids raise the arms. These are a group of muscles in the shoulders. The Anterior, Middle, and Posterior Deltoids.
After thinking about this... the arms and club are elevated, by a combination of bicep(right arm) and the deltoids of the right shoulder. It seems that if the deltoids are not doing thier job, possibly due to an injury, the club may tend to go around the body too much, in a very flat plane.
It looks to me that in the picture in 9-1-5, that the right deltoids have been activated, and have given the right shoulder a sort of shrug. If this were not the case, the arms would be hanging nearly the same distance, however, the right hand is higher than the left in the picture. Try this, as in the pictures. The hands do not get back to level to each other until 9-1-8.
What do you think?
Last edited by lagster : 02-16-2008 at 11:00 PM.
Reason: wrong word
The Swinger wants his right arm Passive-- 3 Barrel, during the release sequence.
Remember, even for Swingers, the Right Arm is never completely passive.
The Right Triceps is always active -- from Start Up to Follow-Through -- with Extensor Action (the Right Arm stretching the Left through Pressure Point #1 / the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb).
Also, driven by the Right Shoulder, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge -- the Right Forearm, Bent Right Wrist and Lag Pressure Point #3 (first joint of the right forefinger) -- will always deliver its 'stiff-wristed slap' (Major Basic Stroke / 10-3-B / usually heavy laden with Clubhead Lag Pressure) directly at the Aiming Point (usually, the Ball).
So, the 'dirty little secret' of The Golfing Machine is that, Hitting or Swinging, Four Barrels or Three, the Stroke is very much a "right arm approach to the whole game" (First Edition / 1-F).
Remember, even for Swingers, the Right Arm is never completely passive.
The Right Triceps is always active -- from Start Up to Follow-Through -- with Extensor Action (the Right Arm stretching the Left through Pressure Point #1 / the heel of the Right Hand against the Left Hand thumb).
Also, driven by the Right Shoulder, the Right Forearm Flying Wedge -- the Right Forearm, Bent Right Wrist and Lag Pressure Point #3 (first joint of the right forefinger) -- will always deliver its 'stiff-wristed slap' (Major Basic Stroke / 10-3-B / usually heavy laden with Clubhead Lag Pressure) directly at the Aiming Point (usually, the Ball).
So, the 'dirty little secret' of The Golfing Machine is that, Hitting or Swinging, Four Barrels or Three, the Stroke is very much a "right arm approach to the whole game" (First Edition / 1-F).
Also... the Right Shoulder and Right Hip. TGM talks about the RIGHT SHOULDER TURN and RIGHT HIP TURN.
OK... What gets that club up there, where the hands and arms are in a good position as in the 10-13 Top pictures? I have heard one explanation that it is like "cranking a lawn mower". What muscles get that club up there. Most don't seem to have a problem with this, but for those that do, it may be helpful to understand this. TGMers are not afraid to go into great detail, and this should be no exception.
I have heard one explanation that it is like "cranking a lawn mower".
. . . it may be helpful to understand this.
Properly understood, this is a great analogy for the On Plane Right Forearm Takeaway.
Unfortunately, most 'lawn mower crankers' I see -- even professionals demonstrating -- fail to 'fan' the Right Elbow (as is required for Power). Thus, in this misconception, the Hands remain between the Right Elbow and the Ball, and the Elbow moves straight back along the line the Right Forearm is positioned.
This is Push Basic Stroke (10-3-C), and for full shots demanding Power, trust me . . .
'lawn mower crankers' ..."start the lawnmower" etc is the worst vision to have of the takewaway.
This is how I envision it. You're a card dealer in the middle of a round table. You deal cards to everyone from your left to your right. After you deal the last card to the schmuck on your right, you deal a card to the player behind and above your right shoulder. About 5 o'clock high. (If your head is the center of the clock dial) The elbow doesn't move much but the hand and forearm does.
'lawn mower crankers' ..."start the lawnmower" etc is the worst vision to have of the takewaway.
This is how I envision it. You're a card dealer in the middle of a round table. You deal cards to everyone from your left to your right. After you deal the last card to the schmuck on your right, you deal a card to the player behind and above your right shoulder. About 5 o'clock high. (If your head is the center of the clock dial) The elbow doesn't move much but the hand and forearm does.
[Bold emphasis by Yoda.]
And there you have it.
The Right Forearm Fans (12-5-1-#17).
Great stuff, tradekid.
From Start Up to Top, this is EXACTLY how Homer Kelley -- seated on his chair -- demonstrated the Right Forearm Takeaway to our assembled GSEM Class on January 12, 1982.
'lawn mower crankers' ..."start the lawnmower" etc is the worst vision to have of the takewaway.
This is how I envision it. You're a card dealer in the middle of a round table. You deal cards to everyone from your left to your right. After you deal the last card to the schmuck on your right, you deal a card to the player behind and above your right shoulder. About 5 o'clock high. (If your head is the center of the clock dial) The elbow doesn't move much but the hand and forearm does.
Good stuff. I never got the lawnmower analogy because I surely don't start my lawnmower with a RFP motion and never saw my dad start it this way when I was a kid. The lawnmower analogy seems to apply directly to the One Plane Swing suggested takeaway move which is a sawing motion with the right elbow...just like I do when starting a lawnmower, doing one arm bent over dumbbell rows in the gym, or elbowing someone standing directly behind me.
On the other hand, the RFP, feels like I am raising my right arm like I would when getting ready to throw a ball or if I had a spear in my hand getting ready to "stick" something on the ground with the sharp point.
The big question I have always had is if there is a difference between RFP for hitters and swingers. How is the turn and roll of the left wrist reconciled between swingers and hitters or is there a difference? Thanks.
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