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Old 11-17-2009, 01:00 PM
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Pulling many shots, why?
I am playing my absolute best golf right now, my scoring the last 6 rounds has gone from 84 to 80 the past month. Now while that is great improvement, thanks in part to this site, I still want to get better.

I hit balls yesterday and instead of working on mechanics I was just focused on target practice. It became obvious I was hitting it solid but everything was slightly left. I checked alignment and grip, seemed pretty good. Ball starts out just left of target with a slight draw. These shots are still more than playable. I went back and looked at my last round, every hit green was on the left side with anything more than a sand wedge.

Now I know the face has to be shut slightly at impact, and shut slightly to path to cause the draw.

Is the best way to fix this just to aim right and play it? Open the face at the time I grip it?

Here are two videos, a little dark with the shadows. These were ok strikes, and both were a little left.

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driver face on (i smoked this one) -
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:28 PM
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Your plane (and plane line seems) to be pointing slightly to the left of your target. You are taking the club outside the target line in the takeaway. A minor adjustment at address and aiming for the inside quarter of the ball may be all it takes to take the ball straight to the pin.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:01 PM
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Ask ten golfers and get ten different answers. Maybe you have ten problems? Just kidding.

I can tell from prior video that your swing has improved. The hard work is paying off. Congrats. You have a lot of good things going on and you look like a controlled golfer. You're still off plane and you slide your head like a mini-van door, but its getting better.

You clockwise Turn your Hands during the Takeaway, which is good. But then they Counterclockwise rotate because you bend your right arm to the top of the swing (closed clubface), then during the down stroke they remain closed, and at release, believe it or not, you rotate them clockwise again but not enough before impact. You're going into impact with a closed clubface. You turn them, roll them, and turn again through Impact.

Which is why you'll forever bend your left wrist at impact and live in darkness. How will you ever Roll the Primary Lever when your right forearm is rotating clockwise (Turning) through impact? You're a "Poster Child" for Hand Manipulated Vertical Hinging.


Lets Turn, keep them turned, and then roll through impact. It's Turn, then Roll. Not Turn-Roll then Turn.

Hmm? Ok. Open the palm of your right hand. Look at the Palm of your right hand and notice that the inside of your right forearm and wrist is also facing you. That's the part that never seems to get enough Suntan. Perform a Right Forearm take-away and notice that the inside of the right forearm (and wrist)is facing you. Don't change that alignment throughout the swing. Always have the inside of the right forearm facing you. Then, your right hand and left will roll through impact and for the first time, you'll hinge the primary lever through impact and maybe you won't bend the left wrist.

Write the word "Yoda" on your right wrist. Your right hand turns during the take-away and you can read the the word "Yoda". So, no matter where your hands are during the stroke, you should stop, and be able to read the word "Yoda". At impact, hands will roll and "Yoda" will again face the target and stay facing the target until the follow-through.

The bad news, is that you're going to find out how completely inflexible you are. The good news is that we added 10 yards to every club and you'll be hitting them straight - eventually.

The other solution is cup your left wrist at the top of the swing to open the face and swivel like a madman through impact.

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Old 11-17-2009, 06:02 PM
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WOW!

Going to take some time to digest. I have zero flexibility, none, and this from someone good enough to play college football.

The hand manipulated vertical hinging, Richie3jack told me the same thing, but I understand now why.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:18 PM
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WOW!

Going to take some time to digest. I have zero flexibility, none, and this from someone good enough to play college football.

The hand manipulated vertical hinging, Richie3jack told me the same thing, but I understand now why.
Whoa. College football. Athlete.

Richie3jack is from Atlanta, what could he POSSIBLY know about Golf?
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Old 11-17-2009, 07:20 PM
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small time stuff, played only a very short time.

so right now in my messed up swing at the top I have rotated my palm counter-clockwise so its facing the sky, thus shut position (clockwise start, counterclockwise to finish).

If I start the backswing with the same clockwise rotation, but keep that rotation all the way to the top, the palm (or say the word Yoda) is facing my caddie view camera, or the ball, or whatever the proper term is, either way 90 degrees to sky up, correct (though with a bent right wrist I guess it is always going to be up towards the sky a little bit)? It feels very cuppy but I can see the top of the club is not shut anymore. Then the club on the downswing keeps that same relationship (whoh that feels weird), which sure feels really open to me (duh, I have been shut for years) and at the last second the club is rolling into the horizontal hinge. It feels so weird, because I rolled the other way before (doh, think thats what you said, I rolled to a vertical hinge motion from the shut position).

I hope this makes some sense, I may do a short video tonight with some questions, if you dont mind?

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Old 11-17-2009, 07:42 PM
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Lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.

If your video camera is in a down the line view, and if you do a Pitch shot (about half way) then the back of your wrist is facing the camera stand where it touches the ground and the word Yoda is facing your face. You can read the word "Yoda". "Y" is at the bottom and "A" is at the Top. At this point in your swing, if you used the right forearm take-away, your shoulders have moved and your right forearm is about parallel to the ground.

So the wrist, the inside, where you would buckle your watch if you wore one on your right wrist, would always face your face.

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Old 11-17-2009, 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Daryl View Post
Lets make sure we're talking about the same thing.

If your video camera is in a down the line view, and if you do a Pitch shot (about half way) then the back of your wrist is facing the camera and the word Yoda is facing the target. At this point in your swing, if you used the right forearm take-away, your shoulders have moved and your right forearm is about parallel to the ground.
I was thinking the camera from the face on view. I understand the position you are talking about though halfway back.
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Old 11-17-2009, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by gmbtempe View Post
I was thinking the camera from the face on view. I understand the position you are talking about though halfway back.
Ok, I thought so.
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Old 11-17-2009, 09:08 PM
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Ball's starting left because the face is shut at the top. Plus your head is back. But mainly the face is shut. So open the face some at address. Look at your left wrist . . . you may want do some hammering to see how the left wrist cocks with the grip you got. You have an anatomically flat left wrist at the top which is OK however the face is shut. So you can open the face some or cock your left wrist some where you get some bend.

Now plenty of cats play nice golf with a shut face Duval . . . Trevino . . . but you are pretty much dependent on getting the right amount of shaft lean to keep that face OPEN . . Otherwise the face is gonna pull the ball.
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